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MichaelHalstead: /* What if I e-mail yocto@yoctoproject.org after the migration? */

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What if I e-mail yocto@yoctoproject.org after the migration?

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	We~~'ve~~ added rules to redirect the e-mail to the new address so it should still be delivered. There will be a delay introduced so we recommend updating your addressbook right away.		We added rules to redirect the e-mail to the new address so it should still be delivered. There will be a delay introduced so we recommend updating your addressbook right away.
			These rules have been removed as of September 1st 2020.

	====Where do I find the settings and owner/moderator tools?====		====Where do I find the settings and owner/moderator tools?====

MichaelHalstead at 04:29, 22 November 2019

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	====What if I e-mail ~~the~~ yocto@yoctoproject.org after the migration?====		====What if I e-mail yocto@yoctoproject.org after the migration?====


	We ~~are adding~~ rules to redirect the e-mail to the new address so it should still be delivered. There will be a delay introduced so we recommend updating your addressbook right away.		We've added rules to redirect the e-mail to the new address so it should still be delivered. There will be a delay introduced so we recommend updating your addressbook right away.

MichaelHalstead at 04:28, 22 November 2019

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	If you were a subscriber before the migration visit https://lists.yoctoproject.org/sendloginlink and enter the e-mail you receive list mail at to receive a login link and set a password.		If you were a subscriber before the migration visit https://lists.yoctoproject.org/sendloginlink and enter the e-mail you receive list mail at to receive a login link and set a password.


	~~====My question isn't answered here. What should I do?====~~

	~~Please e-mail pointofcontact@lists.yoctoproject.org and we will help you out.~~


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	====Who can help in case of issue?====		====Who can help in case of issue? / My question isn't answered here. What should I do?====


	If you are facing any issue ~~or have any questions~~ related to the Groups.io migration, please ~~contact Michael Halstead or Nicolas Dechesne~~.		If you are facing any issue related to the Groups.io migration or have an unaddressed question, please e-mail pointofcontact@lists.yoctoproject.org.

MichaelHalstead at 04:26, 22 November 2019

2019-11-22T04:26:27Z

MichaelHalstead at 04:22, 22 November 2019

2019-11-22T04:22:41Z

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	The Yocto Project ~~is moving~~ from self-managed Mailman to Groups.io, which provides mailing list services in a simple but modern interface. Groups.io offers all of the capabilities of our existing Mailman mailing service plus additional community tools that make it an exceptional service solution.		The Yocto Project has moved from self-managed Mailman to Groups.io, which provides mailing list services in a simple but modern interface. Groups.io offers all of the capabilities of our existing Mailman mailing service plus additional community tools that make it an exceptional service solution.


	~~We are planning to migrate your existing mailing list archives and user lists to Groups.io soon. Exact time to be determined.~~


	~~The migration will include details on subscriber preferences and owner or moderator privileges.~~


	Owners and Moderators: Please be aware pending memberships or posts (and similar pending moderation actions) in Mailman will not be preserved in this migration. We recommend re-checking for any such pending decisions and taking action on them within Mailman one hour prior to the start of the migration window.


	During the migration window you will still be able to access the archives, however the delivery of messages sent to the mailing lists during this window will be delayed until after the migration of the archives and list members are complete. We will turn off new list signups during the migration window, then this functionality will be restored once it is complete.


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	If you’d like to learn more about using Groups.io , please [https://groups.io/static/help reference their help documentation].		If you’d like to learn more about using Groups.io , please [https://groups.io/static/help reference their help documentation].


			'''What about outstanding messages and subscriptions in the moderation queue?'''

			Pending memberships or posts (and similar pending moderation actions) in Mailman were not preserved in this migration. Most list owners cleaned up their queues shortly before the migration so very little was discarded.

			''' I sent a message during the migration. Will is arrive?'''

			Messages sent to the mailing lists during the migration window will take one to several hours to arrive depending on your mail server configuration. No messages were accepted by the mail server that did not make it into the migration.

MichaelHalstead at 04:13, 22 November 2019

2019-11-22T04:13:16Z

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	If you’d like to learn more about using Groups.io , please [https://groups.io/static/help reference their help documentation].		If you’d like to learn more about using Groups.io , please [https://groups.io/static/help reference their help documentation].


			'''What about outstanding links to the pipermail archives?'''

			Edit the link to change "lists.yoctoproject.org" to "www.yoctoproject.org" like this https://www.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/automated-testing/2019-September/000480.html Groups.io is going to add an automatic redirect in short order.

MichaelHalstead at 04:09, 22 November 2019

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	What are the key differences between Mailman and Groups.io?		'''How do I set up my account?'''

			If you were a subscriber before the migration visit https://lists.yoctoproject.org/sendloginlink and enter the e-mail you receive list mail at to receive a login link and set a password.


			'''My question isn't answered here. What should I do?'''

			Please e-mail pointofcontact@lists.yoctoproject.org and we will help you out.


			'''What are the key differences between Mailman and Groups.io?'''

MichaelHalstead at 16:21, 18 July 2019

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	~~‘’’What~~ if I e-mail the yocto@yoctoproject.org after the migration?~~’’’~~		'''What if I e-mail the yocto@yoctoproject.org after the migration?'''

MichaelHalstead at 16:09, 18 July 2019

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	he Yocto Project is moving from self-managed Mailman to Groups.io, which provides mailing list services in a simple but modern interface. Groups.io offers all of the capabilities of our existing Mailman mailing service plus additional community tools that make it an exceptional service solution.		The Yocto Project is moving from self-managed Mailman to Groups.io, which provides mailing list services in a simple but modern interface. Groups.io offers all of the capabilities of our existing Mailman mailing service plus additional community tools that make it an exceptional service solution.

MichaelHalstead: Created page with "he Yocto Project is moving from self-managed Mailman to Groups.io, which provides mailing list services in a simple but modern interface. Groups.io offers all of the capabilit..."

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Created page with "he Yocto Project is moving from self-managed Mailman to Groups.io, which provides mailing list services in a simple but modern interface. Groups.io offers all of the capabilit..."

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he Yocto Project is moving from self-managed Mailman to Groups.io, which provides mailing list services in a simple but modern interface. Groups.io offers all of the capabilities of our existing Mailman mailing service plus additional community tools that make it an exceptional service solution.

We are planning to migrate your existing mailing list archives and user lists to Groups.io soon. Exact time to be determined.

The migration will include details on subscriber preferences and owner or moderator privileges.

Owners and Moderators: Please be aware pending memberships or posts (and similar pending moderation actions) in Mailman will not be preserved in this migration. We recommend re-checking for any such pending decisions and taking action on them within Mailman one hour prior to the start of the migration window.

During the migration window you will still be able to access the archives, however the delivery of messages sent to the mailing lists during this window will be delayed until after the migration of the archives and list members are complete. We will turn off new list signups during the migration window, then this functionality will be restored once it is complete.

'''FAQs'''

What are the key differences between Mailman and Groups.io?

* Groups.io has a modern interface, robust user security model, and interactive, searchable archives

* Groups.io provides advanced features including muting threads and integrations with modern tools like GitHub, Slack, and Trello

* Groups.io also has optional extras like a shared calendar, polling, chat, a wiki, and more

* Groups.io uses a concept of subgroups, where members first join the project “group” (a master list, normally called "main", in our case called "yocto"), then they choose the specific “subgroup” lists they want to subscribe to

'''How is the experience different for me as a list moderator or participant?'''

In many ways, it is very much the same. You will still find the main group at your existing URL and sub-groups equate to the more focused mailing lists based on the community’s needs. The most important change is the domain. We are moving from yoctoproject.org to lists.yoctoproject.org for all list addresses. Here is an example of main group and sub-group URL patterns, and their respective emails:

https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto

https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/meta-xilinx

yocto@lists.yoctoproject.org

meta-xilinx@lists.yoctoproject.org

‘’’What if I e-mail the yocto@yoctoproject.org after the migration?’’’

We are adding rules to redirect the e-mail to the new address so it should still be delivered. There will be a delay introduced so we recommend updating your addressbook right away.

'''Where do I find the settings and owner/moderator tools?'''

To change settings while in a group or subgroup, left click “Admin” from the side menu.

Then from “Admin” you can select:

“Settings” to change overall settings for a group, including privacy and message policy settings.

“Members” to manage people within a group, including adjusting their role and privileges

“Pending” to view messages pending moderation

If you’d like to learn more about using Groups.io , please [https://groups.io/static/help reference their help documentation].

'''Will the migration also impact mailing lists on openembedded.org?'''

No, at this time , only lists from yoctoproject.org are moved to Groups.io and openembedded.org mailing lists will be moved at a later time.

'''Who can help in case of issue?'''

If you are facing any issue or have any questions related to the Groups.io migration, please contact Michael Halstead or Nicolas Dechesne.

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	~~'''~~FAQs~~'''~~		==FAQs==


	~~'''~~How do I set up my account?~~'''~~		====How do I set up my account?====

	If you were a subscriber before the migration visit https://lists.yoctoproject.org/sendloginlink and enter the e-mail you receive list mail at to receive a login link and set a password.		If you were a subscriber before the migration visit https://lists.yoctoproject.org/sendloginlink and enter the e-mail you receive list mail at to receive a login link and set a password.


	~~'''~~My question isn't answered here. What should I do?~~'''~~		====My question isn't answered here. What should I do?====

	Please e-mail pointofcontact@lists.yoctoproject.org and we will help you out.		Please e-mail pointofcontact@lists.yoctoproject.org and we will help you out.


	~~'''~~What are the key differences between Mailman and Groups.io?~~'''~~		====What are the key differences between Mailman and Groups.io?====


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	~~'''~~How is the experience different for me as a list moderator or participant?~~'''~~		====How is the experience different for me as a list moderator or participant?====


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	~~'''~~Where do I find the settings and owner/moderator tools?~~'''~~		====Where do I find the settings and owner/moderator tools?====


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	~~'''~~What about outstanding messages and subscriptions in the moderation queue?~~'''~~		====What about outstanding messages and subscriptions in the moderation queue?====

	Pending memberships or posts (and similar pending moderation actions) in Mailman were not preserved in this migration. Most list owners cleaned up their queues shortly before the migration so very little was discarded.		Pending memberships or posts (and similar pending moderation actions) in Mailman were not preserved in this migration. Most list owners cleaned up their queues shortly before the migration so very little was discarded.

	~~'''~~ I sent a message during the migration. Will is arrive?~~'''~~		==== I sent a message during the migration. Will is arrive?====

	Messages sent to the mailing lists during the migration window will take one to several hours to arrive depending on your mail server configuration. No messages were accepted by the mail server that did not make it into the migration.		Messages sent to the mailing lists during the migration window will take one to several hours to arrive depending on your mail server configuration. No messages were accepted by the mail server that did not make it into the migration.


	~~'''~~What about outstanding links to the pipermail archives?~~'''~~		====What about outstanding links to the pipermail archives?====

	Edit the link to change "lists.yoctoproject.org" to "www.yoctoproject.org" like this https://www.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/automated-testing/2019-September/000480.html Groups.io is going to add an automatic redirect in short order.		Edit the link to change "lists.yoctoproject.org" to "www.yoctoproject.org" like this https://www.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/automated-testing/2019-September/000480.html Groups.io is going to add an automatic redirect in short order.


	~~'''~~Will the migration also impact mailing lists on openembedded.org?~~'''~~		====Will the migration also impact mailing lists on openembedded.org?====


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	~~'''~~Who can help in case of issue?~~'''~~		====Who can help in case of issue?====


	If you are facing any issue or have any questions related to the Groups.io migration, please contact Michael Halstead or Nicolas Dechesne.		If you are facing any issue or have any questions related to the Groups.io migration, please contact Michael Halstead or Nicolas Dechesne.